Sleezy Vibes With Carrie Phelps
Carrie Phelps makes her first appearance on Vibing With Sleezy: The Podcast. Carrie and I discuss her being hit by a car, living in Ghent, Movies, Horror Movies, reviewing Movies, and more. This episode was a blast and full of nostalgia feelings.
Hey, what's up, everybody? Welcome to Bibin' with Sleazy the podcast. This is season seven, episode 17. I want to thank everybody for listening, tuning in, and downloading. It's been a great season so far. I've had some great guests. I've had some great solo episodes. Really want to shout out uh different people that have been on the show here recently. And uh, you know, Whitney Yaden was a great episode. Got a lot of feedback from her and her friends. Uh I also want to shout out uh Xavi from uh high school uh for uh sharing my podcast about the NFL draft. Uh it's always dope seeing uh friends from back in the day uh reach out and shout out and show some love. So um overall, I want to thank everybody that's been listening. I have another special announcement that I haven't said on the past couple episodes, but currently 85 countries are now listening to Bibin with Sleazy the podcast. That means that at least one download has happened in that country. So for 85 to happen to be played on every continent, it's an extreme blessing. Um, I feel like with the audio going to uh YouTube sometimes that helps, and then also too, it just very interesting. A lot of the countries that have tuned in, it was almost a 34 country growth. So I'm really, really excited about that. But I have a very special guest, somebody I go way back with, and uh one of my favorite people, it is Carrie Phelps. How have you been doing?
SPEAKER_02I'm good. How are you?
SPEAKER_01Doing great um overall, uh, very excited to have you on the show. Um, you have been a supporter of the show. Your boyfriend's been on the show, of course, Doug K. And I am very thankful for both of your all support. Uh, so this this is somebody that I have been wanting on the show, and me and Carrie, you know, I always know she's supporting, so finally have got her on, and so I'm very happy that uh you've decided to come on.
SPEAKER_02So excited to be here, bud.
SPEAKER_01Thank you, thank you so much. So, how has life been treating you?
SPEAKER_02Uh it's been alright. We had a rough start to the year. Uh, I got hit by a car while crossing the street, so that was super fun to deal with.
SPEAKER_01I hate that that happened. I hate that that happened. That was horrible.
SPEAKER_02It was not a fun experience, but uh two leg fractures later and a couple of months of downtime, and I'm back on my feet and ready to roll, so we're all good. Awesome. Other than that, the month's been pretty good to me because it was my birthday a couple weeks ago.
SPEAKER_01Happy birthday.
SPEAKER_02Thank you, thank you. Um, we did some tie-dye and roasted some hot dogs over a campfire, so you know, good old country fun.
SPEAKER_01Nice. I actually did my first tie-dye experience recently, uh uh last year with some zoo group, and uh I I thought it was a very interesting process.
SPEAKER_02I was like, it's super fun to do and super easy. Look at you, I always have a bunch of white t-shirts that get stained, uh, and that's just like an easy way to kind of like give them a little bit of new life. So tie them up with some rubber bands, dunk them in some dye, and see what happens.
SPEAKER_01What's the colors you usually go for?
SPEAKER_02Honestly, it's just whatever I have around. The last two I did were literally just leftover dye from the last time that I had tie-dyed. So we ended up with a kind of uh random ratio of red, pink, blue, and green.
SPEAKER_01Ooh, I like that. I I was interested how to do it. Uh, what it was was a bunch of uh former co-workers when I worked at the zoo, we did a tie-dye event. It was actually at Highwire Brewing, which is shut down now in the Highlands down there, where uh down there, you know, where I believe yeah, Goodfellas Pizza, and uh went there trying to set up a couple. We had a a couple people we were trying to set up there and uh did not work out the setup, but the tie-dye was fun, and everybody made a shirt. The brewery had a shirt for everybody to get. I believe we paid like 20 bucks. Um, what was funny? The guy that was doing it, I actually used to sell beer with him back in the day, and I was like, this is funny running to you here. And I kind of asked him the process, he was trying to kind of instruct us, and I felt like he didn't even know what he was doing. So it was kind of a free-for-all, and everyone's shirt turned out very interesting. Uh, shout out to Lynn from the zoo. She uh she kind of got everybody with the ball rolling and kind of was just like, you gotta do this, you you gotta do that. And so I still have my shirt, but I'm I'll I just I don't think it was a very good uh good tie-dyed job.
SPEAKER_02Um some people can do really interesting, like intricate designs, but I do not understand how. I've done dozens of them at this point and tried my hardest, but they always turn out a little wonky, but we love them anyway.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and it's fun, and that's the good thing about tie-dye. There's no perfection, you're kind of uh, you know, throwing, throwing kind of you know, tie-dye painting colors at the at the wall, you know, the wall's a t-shirt and trying to just mode it together. Um just freeform art. We love it. Yeah, oh for sure. And so I want to ask uh not to get in too many details about it. So getting hit by the car, explain where did this happen in Louisville, Kentucky, correct?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was uh on Woodlawn Avenue, um, and like third street crossing to go to a circle K. So super fun.
SPEAKER_01And and the guy came out of nowhere?
SPEAKER_02Uh no, he came out of the parking lot, and I just don't think he was looking, and he just pulled out really quickly uh as I was crossing and just hid into the left side of me. Did he stop? No, uh he did stop after he hit me, yeah. But like he did push me about like 10 feet, I think, something like that.
SPEAKER_01Jesus Christ. Yeah, people just don't pay attention. That is something in Louisville that is just crazy. The I I I cannot believe in the past two years how many cars end up upside down. Like literally, the car is flipped completely over. You just do that. Yeah, I don't get that. I never had seen that over the years. I understand if you're like in war or a demolition derby, but it's like, how is this happening to so many cars?
SPEAKER_02I also don't understand the uh sheer number of drivers that are just ramming into buildings, like that stuff terrifies me, especially now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and in Louisville, you know, uh we call it Magbar for the people listening that aren't from Louisville. Magbar is actually a bar in old Louisville called Magnolia Bar, and it has literally had probably over 20 cars driven right through the entrance. And they, you know, when when it happens to another business, everybody goes, oh damn, it got Magbarred. So pretty, pretty crazy that it's such a common occurrence in the city. Um, with Gent Kentucky, that's where Carrie is coming out of. Carrie, you know, uh works and and has ties in Louisville and and has lived here, of course, but uh Gent Kentucky is where she's now representing. Um let me ask you, so what's Gent drivers like?
SPEAKER_02Honestly, they're few and far between. It's a very, very tiny town. Um, so there's not honestly much traffic on the road. Uh I think the most like discerning factor would be the fact that most people around here drive really large loud trucks.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. So you got a lot of diesel uh in gent?
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah, yeah, a lot of that. And uh a lot of we've had a lot of big construction trucks coming through lately because they're building some sort of small equipment rental place right down the street from me.
SPEAKER_01How um with Gent Kentucky being such a small town, how does the gas stations work? How many gas stations are operating in Gent?
SPEAKER_02There's one.
SPEAKER_01Just one. Okay. So it's pretty much the moneymaker around there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, there's really nowhere else to go except for, I mean, you can go a little bit up the road to Carrollton or a little bit up the road to Warsaw, and there are gas stations in both of those places, probably two or three.
SPEAKER_01And I I love that you all live very close to the hop shops, the the disco bathroom.
SPEAKER_03The disco bathroom.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think that's so cool. I think that is I've always made people stop. I actually sent a couple friends there recently and they didn't believe me. They were older ladies uh in their 50s and 60s, and I told them, I said, if y'all are going on this girl's trip up to Cincinnati, you gotta stop at this gas station. And they're both looking at me like I'm cross-eyed, and I said, No, for real. I said, uh, it's the hop shop. So I said, just don't press that button. And they're like, what? And then they took pictures, they pressed the button, they loved it. So I think it's cool that there's actually two of those, and it's in the middle of just nowhere, you know, for the for these to have such a entertaining bathroom. So I think that's really cool.
SPEAKER_02I was like, I think it's a fun concept just because I mean it gives you a reason to want to go to a gas station bathroom, because let's be real, that's generally just kind of torture that you try to avoid unless it's like an emergency. Oh, it gives you a reason to want to go in there, and it's always kind of fun because I always end up in there with a child who's just absolutely losing their mind.
SPEAKER_01And see, that's what that's what's crazy. The older ladies told me when they went, they didn't realize someone was actually in the stall using the restroom, and they pressed the button, and the ladies like, oh, excuse me, and then they start laughing, and I think they all giggle to each other, but it's like at the end of the day, it's kind of like you're taking a risk going to the bathroom there. If you don't want a disco ball and music playing, the lights to go out, you you don't need to stop at the hop shop.
SPEAKER_02Um Yeah, I mean, people who are photosensitive probably don't enjoy it, but I think it comes with a disclaimer on the for a reason.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that'd be crazy if it gets to a point down the road where they have to eventually like sign vouchers or something like that. That would be that would be nuts. Um, but the thing I was gonna spin off on that, so a really big reason I I wanted to have Carrie on the show. Uh Carrie is definitely someone I would say is a movie expert, someone who has seen a lot of movies, likes movies. Um, her and Doug will watch movies during Halloween and give their ratings on the story. And I think that's a really fun concept. And I I know Carrie watches movies still to this day. So I want to dive in, you know, talk to you about some of your favorites, talk to you about uh how that goes in October and and just kind of dive into movies. So um, with movies overall in general, um, what what is your go-to for a movie? What what kind of what's your whistle?
SPEAKER_02I mean, it really just depends on my mood at the moment. And also, first off, I am not an expert at movies. I would not call myself an expert, um, but I have uh enjoyed a whole whole lot of them at this point.
SPEAKER_01Well, I believe you are an expert reviewer, I will say. You know, and I Well thanks.
SPEAKER_02I'm glad you enjoy my opinions.
SPEAKER_01Yes, and I believe that a lot of the reviews are very valid because you're comparing it to other movies comparing to other things you've seen, and it's not your first rodeo on on watching a movie reviewing, so I'll definitely I'll I'll give you the classification for as expert, expert to me.
SPEAKER_02Um but that's that's fair. I'd like to say aficionado, maybe.
SPEAKER_01Yes, that's a good word. I like that.
SPEAKER_02But anyway, my like favorite genre of movies would be horror. Okay. And why is that?
SPEAKER_01Why why do you feel like you you tend to go to those movies?
SPEAKER_02Um, I really like to try to scare myself, and I don't know what that really says about me as a person, but uh I find that it's kind of difficult to do at this point because I've seen so many horror movies, and a lot of them rely on, you know, the tropes and the cliches and the the jump scares. So I'm a little jaded for them. But when I find one that kind of does something different, something new, um puts a twist on something that I already like, then I get really like hyped up and I get a little spooked and I feel like a little kid again. And I just that makes me happy, you know. I like reconnecting with my inner child, and I think trying to feel scared in some way helps me connect with inner baby carry.
SPEAKER_01And so with a I feel like it's like horror to you and getting being scared and and going about it. That's a nostalgia feel, and it's so special to feel that, especially when we get to our age, you know, we're in our late 30s, and it's something important I think everybody needs to do. I really my one of my biggest pet peeves is seeing someone even my age range or even in their 40s, and they forget that their their youth, they forget to be a kid. You can still be a kid. That's why I always joke I'm 36 going on 12, because it's like I still enjoy things, I still enjoy Gaddy Land, I still enjoy goofy movies, cartoons. It's like you you have you can have a serious side, and life is so serious as it is. It's like you gotta have some fun sometimes, and you gotta remember you never need to not forget your youth. Like, I just think it's very, very important, or your life is gonna be very depressing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and like I think that's kind of why I started doing the um oh, the Monday morning nostalgia movie little uh series, if you want to call it that, that I do on my stories is just because on Mondays I kind of like to start the day off with something that I'm really familiar with. So obviously the movies that I watched as a child are something that I'm like super familiar with. I've seen them hundreds of times, some of them. What is your top three? What's the top three? Oh goodness, that's a really, really tough one because again, I have a lot of them. I spent a lot of time watching TV as a kid, I've realized. But um, my top three would probably be The Three Musketeers, the the Disney like '93, I think it was, remake with Kiefer Sutherland. Um he was like my first crush, so I you know adore him. Yeah. Uh second would probably be monkey trouble was a really big one for me in that same era. And I've already done that one as part of the series, which is like, have you seen it? It's a movie with a little girl who adopts a monkey. No, I've never seen that. Okay, you would probably enjoy that since you, you know, love all of the zoo animals. Um, but anyway, it's just like she adopts this monkey who is actually like a he's like a con man. He was trained by this guy who stands on the boardwalk and like entertains people with the monkey, but he's trained the monkey to be a pickpocket. So when she uh finds herself in charge of this monkey, he's stealing things and like she's getting in trouble for it. And so it's just like hijinks. But it's a really good one. Wild. That is so wild. I didn't I've never heard of that. Yeah, I don't I I don't know where my exposure to it came from, other than I think somebody just uh taped it on VHS tape, probably off the TV at some point, and I just watched that VHS tape over and over and over again.
SPEAKER_01That's great. That's awesome. What's your third one?
SPEAKER_02Third one, I'm probably gonna go with Ferngully just because Ferngully is the classic and it it makes me happy.
SPEAKER_01Okay, I like that too. That's a good that's a good drop there. And so I'm I'm gonna ask you some questions to make it fun that uh diving into movies. So I'm you have a limited budget, okay? And I am the producer, so I call you up, I'm letting you build the cast. Give me uh five cast members of a movie, male or female, that you think would make the ideal perfect movie. And it can be it, we're it don't have to be specific horror or specific genre, but just give me your core five of who you would put in a movie that you think would just make a great movie.
SPEAKER_02Oh, see, that one's also really, really tough. So I have to go with my man Alexander Skarsgard. Okay, just because he is one of my all-time favorite actors. Um I think I would probably put like Florence Pugh in pretty much anything that I ever was involved in making because I adore her. Um who else would be really good? It's a really tough question, Eric.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I like to I like to try to try to ask them, ask some fancy questions sometimes, make it funny.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Um, I think I would maybe put like who who else is a who's a good older gentleman actor. I would say um okay, no, Willem Dafoe. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Willem Dafoe as someone. Probably put Scarlett Johansson and her husband in the same movie.
SPEAKER_01Wow, so the Joast guy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Colin Joast. Yeah, that'd be great. He's he's really funny. I enjoy him on um what is it, Pop Culture Jeopardy? Yes, he's the host of that. Um, and honestly, I just think they're adorable. So if you put them in a movie as like a loving couple going through anything, it would A be the most believable because they are one, and B, I would just enjoy to watch them do just about anything.
SPEAKER_01I like that because I think they're a great couple too. And here's a fun fact about Colin Jose: his brother actually is one of the main producers of the Impractical Jokers. So the Impractic Jokers that's ran for over 10, I think 11 plus seasons on True TV. Um, you know, some people love it, some people hate it, but it's been a success. I've always enjoyed the show, I enjoyed the guys, I love the story, and I've seen them live. But um his brother, for a while, he was produced and he also kind of like helped on the set, and they they did this like show like inside of practical jokes. Kind of like a behind-the-scenes thing where it was like a little spin-off to kind of you know narrate shows that already went on, and Joe's would always his brother would always be involved with that. So um you you can definitely tell that that family has got into entertainment and and done that, but it's cool that you know both those brothers are are making an impact in the comedy world. And so and with the question I have to ask you too about movies, um what would you say is the thing that you've noticed uh since being a kid and now in adulthood, what have you noticed that's changed about movies? Have you noticed um anything that like you've said and been like, man, it movies are a lot different nowadays. Is there anything that stands out?
SPEAKER_02Um I think a lot of it is just the A, the humor is a lot different because the time period, the humor should be a lot different now than it used to be in some things that I'm revisiting. Um that and like in horror, there was just this weird uh time period where they started doing everything was like trauma-based horror. Um, instead of just being regular, you know, slashers or you know, a good scary story, something with some good lore. It was just all like, oh, this person has mental illness, and like that gets really old really quickly. Um, so I think that's a big difference in like the horror genre. Um and in comedies, it's just like I feel like a the comedies are a lot more uh varied now, which is good. It's a lot less of the just straight up raunchy, you know, college comedies from back in our youth.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
SPEAKER_02Um but other than that, I was like, I think um movies have always just had a wide variety of of you know great things and kind of downsides at the same time.
SPEAKER_01So I think you made a great point because we did in our youth and like our teen years and even going into high school and college, there was so much college humor type movies like the you know, Van Wilder and uh you know American Pie. American Pie and what was that other one? Road Trip.
SPEAKER_02Um, you know, just just different um movies waiting was one that I revisited recently that I was like, this did not age very well at all. Like I honestly I turned it off like 30, 45 minutes in because I was like, I just I can't just can't stand behind this anymore.
SPEAKER_01There's some stuff that just can cringe you out from the past. I mean, I believe there was some definitely, I think every decade has produced major classics, and like I said, I'm very happy that I grew up in the 90s and the early 2000s to see some really good classics. But yeah, there was some movies that it's just like kind of cringe now, but it's overall you you do notice how um a lot of these movies nowadays, too, a lot of times movies are being remade that have already been made. You know, I noticed that. That a lot, you know, like 70s movies, 60s movies that get remade in the 90s and 2000s. And I always like that, but sometimes they can ruin some classics.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was like, I feel like in our childhood, like in the 90s, early 2000s, the remakes or the reboots of things were a little more few and far between. Whereas now it's like everything is part of a franchise that already exists, or they're, you know, I mean, they're redoing um the Lord of the Rings movies. I heard. I don't know if that's a thing we need to do again. But I love Lord of the Rings, but just leave it alone.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, leave some things alone. I mean, at the same and see, I love James Bond. I love that it's continued on. I love that they can still make a plot and storyline out of it, but that's something I noticed. The childhood James Bond, even the James Bond before I was born that I I dearly love, there was always still a sense of humor in there a little bit. Even though it's serious, it's spy, it's shooting, it's bad guys. There was always a little bit of like, especially with the Roger Moore ones, and nowadays it is locked down, serious mode. And um, and I like it. I like them all. I I don't have a complaint, but definitely that series has evolved in such a wild way. Um, what would you say? And and you and I have always uh found a common love for for a certain special guy, Nicolas Cage. So what is your favorite Nicolas Cage movie? You knew I was gonna bring up Nicolas Cage.
SPEAKER_02Uh my favorite Nicolas Cage movie, I mean, I'm like the super weirdo who actually really liked the Nicolas Cage version of The Wicker Man. Oh but I would not say that that is my favorite Nicolas Cage movie because I think my favorite Nicolas Cage movie was probably my first ever Nicolas Cage movie, which was Raising Arizona.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that's a great one. And I I'm actually gonna go Con Air as my favorite of all time.
SPEAKER_02That's a good one too.
SPEAKER_01But I have to give an honorable mention, and and this is one that people are gonna be like, are you fucking kidding me? And I actually looked it up while we've been recording to make sure I give it the exact title. But fun fact, Nicolas Cage actually included this in his top five favorite movies that he's actually been in. But it's in my opinion, it's so bad it's good. But Ron Domatoes gave it an 86%. So maybe they agree with me, but Bad Lieutenant Port of Call New Orleans, made in 2009. It's a crime action movie, had Eva Mendez in it. Unreal, his acting in that. He is literally like a lunatic in it. It is so crazy. So that is one. I don't know. Have you seen that one?
SPEAKER_02I have not seen that one. I was like, that is a new one for me.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I'm going to actually, before this podcast is over, I'm gonna screenshot the IMBD and I'm sending it right to you because you and Doug would have a blast one night watching that.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it we will have to check it out.
SPEAKER_01And it's just it what it is, is it's it's a crime thriller, and he's a drug-addicted detective, and it's based in New Orleans, and what it is is that it it overall it's chaotic, it's post-uh-Hurricane Katrina. So, you know, you have this guy who's balanced post-Hurricane Katrina, and I've and it just it's just such a wild movie. And Nicolas Cage, he has such a strong tie to New Orleans. He owned properties there at one time. I I know he's gone through financial issues over the years, but I believe uh when he was really doing well, he had a few uh places down there, so I think he always enjoys probably filming there and tying things there. But yeah, that is one I have to highly recommend checking out.
SPEAKER_02Um, I was like actually the when I went to New Orleans, I saw the tomb that Nicolas Cage has purchased for himself in um one of the cemeteries down there, and it's a giant uh pyramid-shaped just tombstone, I guess, and ladies have kissed all over it and left like lipstick prints. So they have people who have to come in and either like clean it off or paint over it, and I just thought that was absolutely hilarious.
SPEAKER_01That is funny because I can see him doing that.
SPEAKER_02He is somebody that I could tell is just like, hey, when I die, I want to be in New Orleans and yeah, yeah, and it's like it's weird because it's a cemetery that like doesn't have a lot of extra land available, so you know he had to pull some strings to get the spot and pre-reserve it and put that thing up in advance of his death.
SPEAKER_00But the other Nicholas are crazy, those cemeteries are crazy.
SPEAKER_02They are, they're awesome. I really enjoyed walking through them. I thought they were very, very cool and creepy, and I just it's interesting the different ways that people dispose of their dead. But back on Nicolas Cage for a second. Have you seen Willie's Wonderland?
SPEAKER_01Yes, and that actually blew my mind.
SPEAKER_02Um isn't that one of the best movies ever? I was like, it's a close second to Raising Arizona for you know the favorite Nicolas Cage movie of mine, and he doesn't say a word.
SPEAKER_01Does not say one word, and it just proves how well and versatile he is as an actor. The he he even he's made a movie recently, I don't know the title. Um it it's like he's like a uh like a voodoo priest kind of type of guy, and he's talking in this crazy voice, and it just makes you laugh because you're like, that's Nicolas Cage. Like he is the only one that could pick this crazy voice and really run it. Yeah, and the other one I want to mention is uh I believe I'm I'm I'm going off the top of my head to think, and I know I'm gonna get it. It Renfeld, uh in my I'm pronouncing that yeah, Renfeld, the one where he's a uh uh old vampire. Yeah, yeah. Loved that. I love that.
SPEAKER_02I was like, that was an interesting one. We went to the theater and watched that on my birthday, whatever year that came out a couple years ago.
SPEAKER_012023, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was like, it was a it was a good time. I enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_01That just that movie was was fun, and it was definitely also gave you a little thrill too. Mm-hmm. Um, so with horror movies, um, and and horror I've watched them. I've watched them with you, I've watched them with other people over the years. I have have always dove into it. Um, but I'm gonna give you my favorite horror movie. I definitely want to get into yours, but my favorite, and you're gonna probably laugh, and a lot of people I tell to giggle, but it brings back that nostalgia feel because I remember seeing it in middle school, but the classic, the ring, that is my favorite.
SPEAKER_02I mean, the ring is great, and I remember the first time I watched that was on a band trip on one of those charter buses, and it was dark outside, and everybody all got scared at once, and then the joke for the entire trip was just calling each other and be like, You have seven days.
SPEAKER_01I think I think that was probably the go-to prank of that year, whenever that did come out, because that was just so creepy, and then the blurred face, and to be honest with you, I this is how that movie is still traumatized me. I recently, a few days ago, I've I've been really on this kick of like everywhere I go making YouTube videos, taking photos, editing them into videos, and sharing them. I just love to share it. I feel like it's building a legacy on YouTube, which will always be around, and it's just a lot of fun. And the thing that I really enjoyed uh was going through some old CDs I found, and I wanted to discard the CDs because luckily this laptop I have is a CD drive, but it's getting older, and I just know CDs eventually are just gonna be, you know, you ain't gonna be able to utilize them. So I took all the photos, um, you know, got them on my computer, put them on thumb drive and stuff, and was able to make the videos out of it, but I was going through them, and there's a few because I'm using an older camera back in the day, and and a few of them had people's faces blurry or certain things blurry. And I I remember the other night I'm just quick to delete those because I'm immediately getting triggered, like, oh, these are ring photos.
SPEAKER_02Like immediately, like, they're cursed. She's coming through my TV. I have seven days to sort myself out or pass this on, otherwise, I'm dead.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. And see, the thing about it, the the getting on the ring before we dive into your favorite horrors, you asked earlier about what's a great older guy to put in a movie, like an older man, a gentleman. I love the old man from the ring, the one that was actually you remember he he committed suicide in the bathtub.
SPEAKER_02And oh yeah, he that guy is a great actor.
SPEAKER_01I can't.
SPEAKER_02And he's in a lot of stuff. I do not know his name though.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm gonna have to look him up. Actually, that's why we have Google and technology, and that's what we do. Let's look this guy up. So with the the cast overall, he's a he is such a yeah, Brian Cox. He played uh Rgan. Uh, and so yeah, Brian Cox, who who is very, very good at movies, he he was great in the ring.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was like, he plays in a lot of like dramatic roles. I was like, I can just always see him telling you the very important part of whatever lore of the movie he's in.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, for sure. And so what are some of your favorite horrors? What what would you say uh what would you say is the scariest movie you've ever seen? And what is the okay, I'll do a two-parter. Your scariest horror movie, um, it actually make it three-part, make it more fun. Your scariest horror movie, the one that you love the most, and one that still leaves you to this day guessing, like, and basically leaving an impact on you of what did I just watch? Let's so go with those three categories. Can you do that?
SPEAKER_02Okay, yeah. Uh, you might have to hit me with them one at a time because my memory absolutely sucks.
SPEAKER_01But one that stuck with me. Yeah, the one that stuck with you that is still kind of giving you confusion of like, what did I just watch?
SPEAKER_02Okay. Um, there was a movie, it was called Contracted. It came out in like uh 2013 or so, and it was about a god, this is it's so hard to explain because again, it's one of those what did I just watch movies. But it's like a girl goes on a date with a guy and ends up going home with him, things happen, and she did not know that he apparently is into uh like banging dead bodies in the morgue. Whoa, so she gets a crazy like STD that uh turns her into a weird zombie. And I did not make it all the way through that movie because it was just disgusting. Wow, wow. Like I made it to like the last 10 minutes, and I was like, okay, I've had enough. And uh so I don't really have questions. I kind of know what I watched, but also I'm like, why did anyone make this?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, who made that plot? Okay, uh, what is the one that has scared you the most?
SPEAKER_02Oh, scared me the most. I see, I guess as a kid, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre scared me enough that I have not actually watched most of them as an adult. So we're gonna go with Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
SPEAKER_01They are terrifying. The whole the whole reality of knowing that there's realness, uh, that actually somebody has done that kind of stuff, and and you know, it's it's very, very weird. You know, I know it's not the exact storyline plot of what actually happened in real life, but just the Texas Chainsaw Massacre is just it's very, very, very creepy.
SPEAKER_02Um, Leatherface as a whole is just he is a creepy looking man and he scares me. And also I think the fact that that uh that movie has like a heavy sand dust color filter thing going on. And I've noticed that other horror movies that have that same filter have the same effect on me. So I don't know if I'm just scared of the desert internally and I haven't realized it yet.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're like you're like, man, uh why is this movie shot like this? Like I really want to watch this.
SPEAKER_02It's so like dusty and sephiatone that it almost makes your eyes feel a little itchy, like you got sand up in there and you gotta get it out. So I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm with you on that. It freaks me out too. Like that is a scary, scary movie. That the other thing too about it, you know, that's how Jeepers Creepers, that's how um even the Blair Witch Project, like that, those are the movies that when you're a kid, even though it's fictionalized in these movies, it it hits at home, it becomes so real because you can realize this could happen to me, like that quick and and that that possible. And and what would be your legendary iconic horror film? Like, like for someone, even and even to kind of spin off on it's like someone that you would say this is your go-to horror film because you could even recommend this to somebody that doesn't usually watch horror.
SPEAKER_02I mean, my go-to horror film is always going to be Halloween. Um, pretty much any iteration of Halloween. Uh, and I don't know that I would really recommend it to anyone because I feel like everybody has seen it and already formed an opinion on whether or not it's their jam. But I was like, that would be my ultimate favorite, because I watch it every year on Halloween. I have since I think I was 16. Um, and I just kind of alternate, I bounce around between the different different movies, different timelines, different canons, because I know it's there's a lot of that stuff going on.
SPEAKER_01So I gotta ask you this, because I've never lived in a in a uh small town. So watching horror films in Louisville, Kentucky, which is a crazy city, big city, you know, uh, and then you got gent, very low population, you know, uh, very, you know, more quiet, more reserve. Uh, does it does watching movies in gent feel different than watching them in Louisville, even though you're inside a house?
SPEAKER_02Um, honestly, yeah. I've noticed during our Halloween marathon last year that just the vibes were a bit better because it's really, really foggy out here at night and like in the early wee hours of the morning, so you get the real spooky Halloween vibes. Um, and also there's just a lot less noise to kind of break your focus while you're watching a movie, you know, fewer ambulances going up and down the road, fewer, you know, neighbors if you were in an apartment down in Louisville. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So and so I feel like too, you know, once you step outside after watching some, probably when you're in gent, you know, with it having such low and less noise, that random sound, even if it's an owl or something, you know, out in the distance, it it could definitely, you know, get you get you get you more alert, you know, where you're just an age.
SPEAKER_02There's for sure some creepy noises out here because everybody's got random animals, and you never know what animal's making what noise at what time. Like our neighbor across the street had a like kind of broken rooster who was just going off at weird times of day. I was like, I don't know what's going on, but it's not daybreak. Please calm down.
SPEAKER_01That a rooster is always such a very interesting legendary uh animal for wake-up calls. Everybody goes to the rooster, and I never thought I would see that in Louisville. And I remember I'm working on a house, uh, Taylor Boulevard area, uh, very close to Southwestern Park, which is off Central Avenue. Literally, you know, us being this close to Derby, five minutes from Churchill Downs. And I'm sitting there working on the house, and I'm like, is that really a rooster that I'm hearing? And I look out, what do I see on the fence post? A rooster, and it's like nine o'clock in the morning. So it always that that always cracked me up and sat with me that it's like, wow, I I knew I'd see that in the country, but I didn't know I would see that here. I've seen roosters in backyards, but one that's actually given the morning call is pretty crazy. Um so I actually want to talk a little bit about uh something with Jen and horror. So uh Gent, Kentucky, uh they they, you know, when you when you Google they they labeled as a small river town, but uh one of the regional lore uh for Gent Kentucky is the legend of a cursed 1830s chest of drawers that supposedly caused 18 deaths. Have you heard of this? I have not heard of this. This is news to me. Okay, so this mahogany piece built by an enslaved man named Re Heis and cursed after his murder by John Graham was later actually donated to the Kentucky Historical Society. According to legend, after John Graham killed Re Heis for poor craftsmanship, friends of the builder cursed the chest with owl's blood. It was said to bring death to anyone who used it, prompting the owner to keep an owl feather and a protective note in the top drawer to break the curse. That is absolutely wild. Is is that not crazy?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that is absolutely bananas. I have not heard that. I couldn't I mean I could see it around here. There's legends about literally everything.
SPEAKER_01So that was that is so cool. And I'm, you know, and what I what I like to like when I do podcasts and being, you know, doing these shows, I will start talking to a guest, will either teach me something or we'll look up some while we're recording. And then it's like, okay, the show's over, you know, and then two hours later I'm still reading about this chest of drawers or or or some crazy mystery. But that's where it just you you learn so many things doing the podcast. And so it just it always blows my mind hearing these urban legends and and and uh crazy stories like that. But yeah, I could, you know, being in Gent when I came down uh to see you all that that one time, it was like it it's such an interesting place, and it, you know, it definitely you can tell at some time it's probably had spooky history, but I believe every little small town, probably in any state, has some kind of urban legend or story that kind of you know sits with them.
SPEAKER_02Oh, all of them do, yeah, and especially in Kentucky, like Kentucky is just like littered with spooky history, it's everywhere, including under our feet in the cave systems.
SPEAKER_01Oh, a hundred percent. You know, caves, you and I could talk another hour about caves. I mean, they they have so much uh crazy lore. You know, the the biggest thing that people don't realize in Kentucky, the cave wars. And when you tell somebody outside of Kentucky, they go, Oh, that probably was just people fighting in caves back in the day. No. Literally, caves become such a popular trend before there was entertainment that that's what people needed stuff to do when they weren't at work. So they would go to the different caves, and everybody in Kentucky was like, Hey, I got a cave for you explore. Some were dangerous, some weren't. They just cared about making the money, but people would go and actually try to check these out. And the most fucked up cave story I ever heard, a guy was in a cave trying to uh, you know, he owned a cave and he ended up getting stuck, and uh he was stuck in that cave. And what happened during the cave wars, you know, whoever, I guess I don't believe he owned it, but I believe he was in there trying to get through it. He gets stuck, they can't save him, so they start selling attraction tickets to come see him. And people were literally talking to him. Some people made fun of him, some people were telling him they're sorry. He's stuck. So people made money off it, and when he died, they were eventually able to take the body, and for years he was put at the front of the cave in a display case. Thank God they finally buried him and gave this man his his rest, his peace. But good lord, think about you're dying, you're stuck in a cave, now you got the whole all these people come to see you, and then when you die, your spirit's like, oh, well, where's where's where's my body? Oh, I'm I'm at the front of the cave in a display case.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like you never get to leave the cave. Good ridiculous.
SPEAKER_01Good lord. I mean, it's just so sad. And you know, the you know, about that guy that it wasn't in Kentucky, but that nutty putty cave where he got stuck, and you know, there's just that's that's something, you know, you talk about wanting to scare yourself. You know me, I I I I really like thrills and I I like ghost stuff, but at the end of the day, I can really get get focused on something and it can blow my mind. And the one thing that really blows my mind that still gives me an adrenaline rush, even though I'm sitting on my couch, not anywhere near a cave, is cave explorers on YouTube. Seeing the People that that's their fun on the weekend is going and crawling through caves and exploring caves, and it gives me claustrophobia, and I'm sitting here on the couch.
SPEAKER_02Oh, for sure. I was like, I can't even think about going spelunking myself. That would just uh creep me out from the get-go as soon as I could not see the sunlight. I'm not meant to be below the ground. No, and it called it. But that's probably because of the movie The Descent. I was like, if you haven't seen that one, that one will give you claustrophobia from the couch.
SPEAKER_01I know exactly that movie, and yes, it is a hundred percent one that can really freak you out and make you feel very uneasy, even if you're in the biggest room in the world, that movie can still really get you. Um what would you say is uh a place of where do you think they should make a horror movie, a location? What do you think is an ideal location that they you don't think they've made a horror movie? It don't even have to be a place you visited, but just a place that you think, man, I've heard about this place, it'd be a great place that they can make a horror movie at. What would you think?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I was like, that would be if they could do like a horror movie inside of one of like the royal palaces in pretty much anywhere and do it well, I would be impressed because I feel like anytime you get just as any sort of castle on a screen, the movie is probably going to be bad.
SPEAKER_01I agree with you. Just you saying that, just picturing being in some big giant place with hidden rooms and claws, you know, anything can go down. It almost gives you that Scooby-Doo vibes where it's like people just pop up out of nowhere. Um, I also, you know, a place that I think would make a great horror movie. I've been there once. It's the largest residence in the United States, the Biltmore estate.
SPEAKER_03Um yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Woo! That would be such a horror movie. I remember going there at a young age. They got this room off the side that's got like gardens in the middle, and it it's inside, and you know, and I remember walking through the house and just staring off into the fields that are behind it, like they have all this land off of the house, and you just think about, especially even back in the day, of what animals and what people try to come up to the house and you know, dumb exploring and just you know, and then overall, just being in that house, there's so many rooms anybody could hide anywhere.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. For sure. And then also you have like these big spaces give you the false sense of security that there's always somewhere to run. But sometimes when you're in one of those big places, you end up in a weird little corner with only one actual exit that's too far away from an like an actual ground exit. You end up, you know, on a top floor of four stories in a closet, and you're just stuck there, you know, and that's way more terrifying than being just trapped in one small room.
SPEAKER_01I I completely agree with you. I believe that um it is just a it is a very just weird feeling when you're trapped, when you feel that sense of no escape, it's kind of like like I said, with these cave people, like when you get to that point where uh you you are stuck, like you are not getting out, that causes more fear than even the location itself.
SPEAKER_02Um, and even that sense of panic of just having options of places to run, and then you know, you start to like hyperventilate and worry that you're making the wrong choice, and then ultimately you end up making the wrong choice because you're not really thinking, and then you're just absolutely trapped.
SPEAKER_00Very true.
SPEAKER_01And and let me ask you this. Uh, you know, just for fun, talking about animals, you know, we know they've made movies about dogs, you know, we know Cujo, and we know there's you know, uh Idriselba made a movie about a lion that kept coming after him, and there's been other movies, but what do you think's an animal that they haven't really focused on in horror that they could really make something crazy with?
SPEAKER_02Oh, see, I mean they've covered so many because you have like you've got the snakes covered, the birds are covered. Um, I mean, I guess we haven't really had a very evil cat.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, we really haven't had like an evil tiger, I feel like would be crazy.
SPEAKER_02That would be crazy. I would I would not want to mess with an evil tiger.
SPEAKER_01Now, have you ever talking about movies? Let me ask you this. Have you ever seen the movie Roar?
SPEAKER_03R-O-A-R-U-I-S that's the one with Melanie Griffith and from way back in the day, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Alright, talking about that movie. That movie, the first time I watched it, absolutely blew my mind. You know, Melanie Griffith, her family raised big cats. That was pretty much a true documentary with a spin with a plot included. But people don't realize with Roar, it was the deadliest movie ever made. People died on set, people got attacked. There's even a scene where there's people bleed that's real. And these cats were everywhere, and the people in that movie, you know, were literally being attacked, and and her family just acted like it was no big deal. And Melanie Griffith, she was massively attacked in that movie. So watching that movie, you're literally seeing people actually be attacked by big cats, but also too, like there was a room in that movie in Roar, and there's just big cats everywhere. Like a guy enters the door, and even though I love my tigers, I love my lions, that shit freaks you out. Like, oh yeah. And it's just anything can happen, anything can go wrong quick. So if you haven't watched Roar for people listening, check that movie out. It's actually free on YouTube. You can actually YouTube Roar and watch it for free. Um, if they've stopped that, it's very cheap to find. Uh, but it's definitely highly recommended. It's one of the most controversial movies of all time and definitely one of the most dangerous. And uh I just I I really, really enjoyed that movie. Um, I just thought because it had big cats, but it also it was kind of cool how they were able to include uh a storyline involved with it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was like it was an interesting movie, and I was like, I always thought it was crazy that Melanie Griffith got attacked because that was, I think her the bottom half of her face was what the like the whichever cat, was it a tiger or a lion, um, got got her on the face, and so she had to have all that reconstructive surgery, and so like flash forward years later, and people are like making fun of her lips because they're you know pretty large and obviously enhanced, but they don't actually equate it to the fact that she had to get surgery because of that role.
SPEAKER_01And see, this is something crazy. This is how the universe works. Before we recorded tonight, um, when I got off work, I was eating dinner and I watched uh I've been really hooked on, I've already seen them all the episodes, but I got back on Tubi watching Miami Vice, and Melanie Griffith had on and off with Don Johnson, the star of Miami Vice. They used to date and I believe were married and stuff. So it's kind of crazy. I was just watching Miami Vice, and now we're talking about Melanie Griffith. It's just I even got it paused on uh I know my television uh to watch it later, but it's just it's it's crazy. And so with Roar, you know, there was over 150 untrained big cats in Africa that they were using, and basically the visiting family, that's kind of the plot, uh, was you know, terrorized them, and over 70 cast and crew members were injured. And Tippy Hedron and Melanie Griffith, you know, were definitely, like you said, were attacked. And the the thing that's crazy is that no animals were harmed during the filming. Um, I also to kind of look, and let me just because I don't want to ever spread anything uh, you know, that's false, but there was no human fatality. So instead of the most deadly movie, I want to take that back and say it's the most dangerous. So uh people probably had enough, you know, serious stuff where it injuries that that you know could have resulted in death, but it was absolutely terrifying. And and what's interesting too, several lions and animals actually died during production due to illness and a 1978 flood that required the police to actually kill some of the escaped animals. So this flood had uh some of these cats escape the production set and they were having to be put down. So very, very uh wild. That actually kind of reminds me. Do you remember back in Ohio when that guy had all those animals on private and they escaped in Zanesville?
SPEAKER_02No, I don't remember that either.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so in Zanesville, Ohio, um uh what happened was there was a animal escape situation. So what it was, it's called the Zanesville Animal Escape. It actually is on Wikipedia. So October 18th, 2011, the owner of the Muskieman County Animal Farm in Zanesville, Ohio released multiple exotic animals that he owned into Zanesville and then committed suicide. The Sheriff's Office, an Ohio Highway, Ohio State Highway Patrol killed 48 of the animals. And what it ended up turning out to be was 48 animals shot dead, two animals presumed eaten, and six animals were actually captured. And so the reaction was insane, and actually, here's a list. The 48 animals that were killed were Bingle Tigers, American black bears, grizzly bears, wolves, a maca uh macaque monkey, a baboon, mountain lions, African lions. Actually, 17 African lions were released, three leopards, and uh macaws, and uh a small grizzly bear as well. And what I'm very happy, the Columbus Zoo, they really stepped up. They were able to thank God tranquilize some of the animals and not, you know, put them all to death, which they didn't deserve. And Columbus Zoo took a lot of those animals on. But absolutely wild that that happened in Zanesville.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was like, that is crazy. I would have never anticipated that in Ohio.
SPEAKER_01And it's just it's interesting. It's like that guy, he just, you know, he he you know, I I hate that he felt the way he did and had to kill himself, but it's like to to unreal to release all these animals and realize what a damage that could do to not only the animals, but to the community, he really had been going through something. But, you know, I feel like that actually could be that's actually something that would be a great horror movie. Um, I also have you know always thought that it'd be a great plot to make like a zoo escape horror movie, you know, where it's you know, besides just an animal being escaped, something darker, you know, where it's like someone releasing them or doing that. So it's definitely something that could have an interesting plot.
SPEAKER_02So kind of, see, I'm in just envisioning like a more horror-tilted Jumanji.
SPEAKER_01Yes, exactly. And see, Jumanji, I love that movie. What would you think? Oh, I loved it too. It's great. Um, do you feel like with Jumanji, do you feel like that was our big taste at our age? You know, we're you and I are in our late 30s, but around that that time, that was our big break of real really seeing technology applied in a movie.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was like, that was really cool. Um, just because the even like when you watch the original one again today, those animals don't look ridiculous, you know, and a lot of them were computer generated for the first time. So I think they did really good with that. And yeah, I think that was where we developed the test, the taste for it.
SPEAKER_01The one funny part about that movie is that that uh when the boy, the little boy becomes the monkey, and you know, he looks so realistic, and they end up uh he makes that face when the camera zooms in on him, it's like and it's just like there was these little lines, and like even Robin Williams, you know, turning into the the crazy hunter, and you know, and I love too like that that was what was great about Jumanji. It was suspenseful, it was thrilling, it had the historic value, but even during the stampede when the rhino's out of smoke and it's tired, and it's like it has all the animal, all the other animals had ran off.
SPEAKER_02Like funny how that like lady who's in a car just like watching them all go by, you know. She's losing her mind, and even the cop, uh the cop is just like, what do I do here? I have there's nothing I can do here.
SPEAKER_01He's screaming, he screams like ah, like he was just losing his mind. But Robin Williams, rest in peace to him, he always made great movies, and I I swear he he was some guy that you could put in with those type of things. Fake animals, flubber. You know, he could he could act even if the thing wasn't physically there, which was just so such a cool feature of him as an actor. But uh, Carrie, I have to say we could have gone on for hours on hours. I know that you and I uh we could talk more movies, talk more caves. What this means is you're gonna have to be on the show again uh, you know, when I do season eight, and uh you have been a great guest. I have always thought you'd be a fantastic guest, so I'm finally glad that I was able to get you on here season seven. Uh, what did you what's your thoughts and vibes on podcasting? How you how do you like it?
SPEAKER_02Uh I mean it's been a good time. I'm glad I came on, happy to help out, and hope everybody enjoyed uh my opinions on things.
SPEAKER_01Yes, for sure. And if anybody has questions for Carrie or myself or want to know more about movies, you know, Carrie's very easy to uh get a hold of, and I can also always reach out to her and and get anybody info that they need. And you know, people listen to this show, you know, leave comments, uh, tell me about you know movies that you like or anything that we touched on. And uh, you know, the thing about uh the movies, the the one good thing is I don't think movies will ever stop because as much as we think everything's been made, there's always something, always a topic that hasn't, just like the Zanesville Animal Escape, just like other uh things we discussed, you know, even even more cave scary movies. I mean, you could you could use so many plot twists, you know, in a in a cave escape film. But uh, but Carrie, uh, thank you again for being on uh Babble with Sleazy, the website. Uh, you know, definitely check that out. Babinwithsleazy.com, Babin with Sleazy the podcast, Facebook, Instagram, show love, reach out. Um, this is episode 17, so only four more episodes left for season seven. Um, I hope everybody's been enjoying the season. I hope everybody gets to catch up. And uh season eight will be out in 2027. But Carrie, again, thank you, and we are out. Peace.
