Sleezy Vibes With Whitney Yadon
Whitney Yadon makes another appearance on Vibing With Sleezy: The Podcast. We discuss her new art form sewing, education, events, goals, YouTube, International Cryptids, and more. Its always a blast when Whitney is on because we discuss so many things!
Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to Vibe and with Sleazy the podcast. This is season seven, episode 11. I want to thank everybody for listening, tuning in, downloading. It's been a great season so far. I've been kind of spacing out episodes this season, trying to keep the flow going, but not trying to pump out too much too quick. But only got about 11 episodes more to go. Um, so this is one I'm excited to put out. I have a guest that has been on multiple times and is always a fantastic guest, and everybody likes. And so I want to welcome Whitney Yadon. How are you doing?
SPEAKER_01Hey, it's doing good. Glad to be here. I can't believe it's you've had seven seasons already. That's wild.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, it's been crazy. I I feel like when I first started, I was like really didn't know how far it would go. And I just, I don't know, I came up with this theory, like I need to do 21 episodes per season. And sometimes it almost feels like a part-time job, but at the end of the day, I enjoy it. It's just um, you know, you're always amazing with scheduling, but it's just always trying to find scheduling with people and you know, when people can have time, and then also like when I do solo episodes, I try to theme them around stuff and trying to put them out like before a certain date hits. And so it can sometimes be a little crazy, and people always ask me, like, oh, why do you take such a long break? And I'm like, because just pumping out them 21 episodes took takes so long, and then it's like I gotta have a little break and let people catch up too. Because I also don't expect someone to sit there and listen to all 21, like back to back, back to back. You know, people people have lives too.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, for sure. It's it's definitely like a lot more work than than I feel like a lot of people realize for sure.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I'll be honest, like I I have never um had the thought of like giving up on or anything like that, but there's times where it's hard to motivate myself if I feel like there's so much going on in life that it's like now I gotta create this and I want to deliver it well, and I don't want it to feel rushed, and I want it to be good. So I kind of feel like I've been lucky that every time I've started back up, I've been able to try to get back in like the flow of things and also consistence with my life. I got a new job today, uh as a new start a new job, and I'm like uh working for a semi-trucking company as like uh doing like their office work and management, and it's just like it's a lot, it's a lot to take on, and and I'm like, you know, I was like, okay, I you know, I still got 11 more to go. And so I'm excited to I got some more ideas to pump out for the rest of the season, but I think by a little bit after Derby, I'll be I'll be ready for another break. But yeah, but it's always fun and it it's been a it's been a good journey. So um, so what's been new in your world? You just went on a trip recently. Where'd you go?
SPEAKER_01Um, well, I was just in North Carolina with my family. Uh my cousin, she works in um Raleigh and it was her kids' spring break. So me and my aunt and her kids, we all went to North Carolina. We went to Wrightsville Beach for a couple days and hung out on the beach like over the weekend. And then we stayed in Raleigh for a couple days, and so she could uh go to work because she works remotely here in Louisville, and then she goes up there once a or down there once a month.
SPEAKER_00Well, that sounds like a fun trip. It's always nice going to the beach. That's relaxing and very, very clear distress. Um, I feel like I've never met a beach I didn't like, and it's like um there's just there's there's a lot of good ones out there. I actually feel like I really need a beach trip. I uh I pinched a nerve in my right shoulder like last Wednesday, and I swear to you, I couldn't take it. Like I tried chiropractor, massage, ice, heat. I went to the ER on Sunday, and I was just like, inject me with something, give me something. So they like gave me some pain medicine. I've been on this steroid. So besides starting a new job, trying to like work out shoulder pain and like my arm being all crazy. And then now uh the listeners, you know, even though I'm audio only, it's like my my webcam goes out on the laptop that I'm using. So it's just been a lot. I feel like sometimes it's overwhelming, but it's like I get through it, we always uh always figure out a solution. So hopefully the my shoulder will start getting better. But um art-wise, what have you been into uh art here recently? Have you tried anything new or any new projects?
SPEAKER_01Um, yeah, so my main thing is still the oil painting and needle felting. Those are like my two main things that I'm consistent with, but I I just like love crafts and art in general and just making stuff, so I'm always like trying new things. And lately the thing that I've been into is trying to learn how to sew.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Um I've always wanted to learn how to sew because I always thought like the idea like being able to make like your own clothes would be really cool. Um but I've never been very good at it because I'm not very like patient. And I've had like people like I don't know, I've had a couple people in my life try to teach me before, but they were not very good, so it was not very helpful. But I figured oh well, I have a sewing machine, I'll just bust it out and watch like some YouTube videos and try to figure it out myself. And it's it's been really fun. I've been making um I've mostly been making like little uh like little purchases, little bags, and I from there I've been trying to make like some skirts and shirts and stuff, but it's definitely a like slow process because I just like don't have time to add more stuff to what I do. Um but since I had um a pretty good like break between events, I had like some extra time to sort of do something else. So that's what I've been doing.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's really cool because you like I said, you've done so well with your other art, and and I always love discussing what you're working on, and you know, you've taught me a lot about things, and besides just cryptids and felt and all that, it's just really cool everything you've taught me over the years. But um, it's cool that you're grabbing onto that, and I feel like you're somebody that has talent everywhere, like you know, you can make something there, and if you get tired of making working on that type of art, you move on to something else. So that's always cool, and you can do so much with sewing. Um, I remember when I was in middle school at Myers Middle School, shout out to Myers, which is not around anymore, but they had a uh little like a humanities class. I remember in that class, like you would bring it, it was like sixth grade too, and we brought a baby home, and we had to like raise a baby for the night. And I always thought it was hilarious, like my baby was African American, so I was like, that's pretty wild. Like, that was my that was the baby they gave me. And so um I got to name it and like bring it home, and I was like, this baby, this baby is like, I was like, I guess I adopted this baby now. So I I felt like I had this baby for so long, and I was like, it was only a weekend, and I remember the teachers just like, I'm gonna teach you other basic like life things, but looking back, all I really learned in that class was how to raise an adopted baby over the weekend, how to make chocolate chip cookies in this miniature oven, and then they said, We're gonna get sewing machines out, and they got sewing machines out from this closet, and they stick them down, and I'm like, what are we making? They're like, You're gonna sew a pencil case. Well, I sewed this pencil case, and I swear I kept it for a few years, and I remember I was so proud of it, but looking back, it is the most crooked, misshaped pencil case. I don't even think it would really carry a pencil for real. So it was just such an interesting class. I did not understand the dynamic. I didn't get like it, I felt like they just had no material besides like adopted fake babies, cookies, and like sewing machines are like, hey, we got a budget for this, we gotta use it. So like so, and I'm like, I couldn't even, I mean the only thing I think I do a pencil case, like I could probably put one of the cookies in there I made. But I will say the cookies were bomb. They were they were good. Nice, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I had a similar class in middle school actually. It was like a home egg class. I didn't have to raise a baby, but we did stuff like uh we got to like do like fashion design where we never made clothes, but we we got like templates of like people and like drew our like fashion design ideas on there, and then we like learned like proper place settings and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's interesting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was a pretty fun class, and I remember our teacher, everyone would always like she's a nice lady, but everyone would always uh joke on her because she was always eating food in our class. Every single class, she'd have a different snack.
SPEAKER_00See, I had a guy like I had someone similar like that, my freshman year at Seneca, because I went to Seneca my freshman year and transferred to J Town, but shout to Eric Eiseninger of all people. Uh I just randomly thought of that name because he's a good good dude.
SPEAKER_01I haven't seen him in a long time, but he and I'm I'm sitting outside, so if it's like too loud, just let me know and I can go back inside, by the way.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, you're fine.
SPEAKER_01No, you're doing to mention that earlier.
SPEAKER_00No, it sounds good, and like I said, no, it's it's fine. Um, but no, Eric Eisenminger, he and I always make this joke when we see Joe. He's a guy I probably only see once every few years, and there was this teacher that we had, and it was our math teacher. And I'll be honest, the dude really had no personality, like he wasn't strict, he wasn't also like super nice, but he was just like he always was there, and I don't even know if he's our full-time teacher. I think whoever our teacher was had like a surgery, and it seemed like we had him all year, but he would bring, and I and I swear to you, he had to have done it every period. He'd bring those big like things of peanuts, and he'd sit there and he'd eat these peanuts, but he would smell it first. Every single peanut he would smell, and they're already like it's not in the shell, like they're shellless, but he like smell it, and you could tell it was like a nervous habit, and then he just like lick it a little and eat it, and we'd all in the class be like focused, and I don't think he even realized the whole class noticed it, and you know, and being a freshman, you're like just thinking of like all the random stuff, and you're trying to like get used to high school, and it's like that was my first period, so it's like I get peanut man, and it was just hilarious. Like this dude just he would sniff it, lick, and I don't even know his name. I mean, I can't even like remember his name. That was so long ago, but just a peanut guy love some peanuts.
SPEAKER_01Wow, that's awesome.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, so you know, do you feel like looking back um talking about school, you know, you look back now and you look at the things that we need as kind of adults. Do you feel like I feel like they missed out on a lot of stuff they could have taught us that were actually like real world, like taxes, like um, you know, stocks, like doing um, you know, bigger than like it just feels like they just kind of threw stuff at the wall and was like, maybe this will stick with them. What do you think?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I feel like that sometimes for sure. I definitely think like at least like in college, they should have had offered like classes on how to live life as an adult. Um you know, having it in high school would be great too. How to do your taxes, how to buy a house, how to buy a car, how to like uh make food, like stuff like that. I feel like are like basic life skills that it would have been nice to have like had a leg up on instead of having to like figure it all out yourself. And I don't know, like I sound like an old lady, but like I feel like kids today are like even more efficac because like I don't know, I guess like learning like math and geography and like whatever stuff like that in the long run it doesn't really matter, but like my cousin's kids are are 12 and 15 and they don't even know how to read a map.
SPEAKER_00Really?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's like pretty wild. They don't know where like things are at all because I have talked to them a few times about like, oh, I'm going over to here or whatever. And I mentioned South Dakota, and one of them was like, Oh, is that across the ocean? It's like no.
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh. See, that's wild because it was interesting. I had a few German friends come over in like 2019, and they were very shocked about the geography of just like the South. They had like stayed with me for a couple weeks, and then they rented a car to have another week of like exploring the South, and I had to go back to work, and it was like kind of funny and cool hearing them. They would report back to me each day, like, hey, we're here, and we don't even know how we got there. And and I would send them the map, and I'm like, guys, like everything's connected, like you gotta just and I think they kind of had more fun just GPSing and then realizing like, oh, we're close to this. Oh, but that's very far. And so it was interesting getting their perspective. And then we also played that game, like I I was like one of their friends, like we had the states out, and you know, like guest the state, and you know, a lot of them just it just I don't think they they know those off the top of the head, but I also feel like for a lot of kids, and again, not to sound like an old person, but it's like a lot of that group, I don't think they can name those European countries. I don't even I think a lot of countries to them would be shocking where they're located because I don't feel like that's probably reiterated as much. But growing up, I loved maps and I love Rand McNally, and like I think we were also really blessed with cool computer games like Oregon Trail, Rand McNally, like all these different things. You get where in the world's Carmen San Diego. That was a classic.
SPEAKER_01Oh heck yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That game is awesome, and you're using like mystery skills to find things, and to be honest, now tonight before I go to bed, I think I gotta find that game because I have not played that in forever. I found Oregon Trail. If you go to the Oregon like tourism website, like visit Oregon, or you Google like play Oregon Trail on uh Oregon website, it literally brings you there, and they have the Oregon Trail game full blown, and like it's awesome. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and there's multiple um I found the Oregon Trail game as a board game recently, and I was very curious about it, but I know that it's like since it's a board game, it's not gonna be like the same vibe, so I I didn't buy it, but I was interested.
SPEAKER_00You can make well, the only thing I think you could make fun with the board game is a theme night where everybody dresses like a pioneer and you eat pioneer and like have like uh uh play the music. Because here's the thing playing Oregon Trail, you don't realize like your computer speakers work until you land at one of the landmarks and it starts playing this digital and you're just like, oh my gosh, this is loud. But then it's pretty crazy how quick things can go bad in that game because one night I was a banker, and the being the banker, you have the most money, but you got to start further, like away, and the whole thing's going great, everybody's eating you know, hardy meals, and everybody's healthy, and my ox are on flat land because I didn't realize how if your land's bad, like you lose the trail because the ox goes crazy. Like, next thing you know, one night I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, you decide how long they rest. So I rest in like some little valley that that was there by like the water, and next thing you know, I get this message, and it's like thief comes in the middle of the night and steals nine ox. Well, I have no ox now. I can't even get, I can't even move. And they're like, you can't continue the game until you trade for an ox. So then I have to give away like my clothes for an ox, and I'm freezing cold, but I got this ox who, by the way, the next 150 miles are bad terrain. So it's just like the most crazy, like diabolical game. And the thing too, it's like I didn't realize either how big of a deal it is. They ask you like four different options. They're like, do you want to try to just float across? Do you want to try to use your oxen to float across? Do you want to fork the or they call it like a faulk or something, like faulk the the cork of the ship and get across, or do you want to pay a Native American to take you across? Well, here's the deal. If you spend all your money at the gift shop thing to buy all the stuff, you have no money to pay the Native American, and he ain't going for free. So then you can't trade uh an ox for a journey across. Like he's like, hey, we're not doing this. Well, I one day I'm like, I got no money. Okay, I'll just try to go, you know, the quicker way, because the quicker way is if you cork it or however they call it work, caulk it, or whatever. It basically floats that day. The other option makes you wait like three days. Well, if it starts getting cold, people are gonna die. So I've played this game so much recently that I've like mastered it. But I ride across trying to get just like, oh, I'll use the ox, we'll go across, we'll make it. Next thing you know, that water raises and you're drowning, and you get this message, and it's like, Rebecca, Billy Bob, Timmy, they have all died of drowned. You've lost 10 ox, you have eight clothes missing, uh, you've lost all your wheels, and you're just like, oh, this is bad. And then you're on the other side by yourself trying to trade just to get the wagon moving. And the diseases are so crazy. Like, I it's it's really weird. Like, I watched Billy the Exterminator, this really goofy show that was on AE at one point. It's like this punk rocker guy who was a like an exterminator in New Orleans down there, like in Louisiana. And every episode he's like, he makes the the things a huge deal. Like he'll walk in a place as cockroaches and he'll go, Oh my god, they're killing everybody. Like he goes crazy. Well, I'm watching the other day, and I have not heard that word, dentister or whatever, dentistry or the disease, whatever that's called. Dysentery? Dysentery, yeah. Dysentery, yeah. I have a speech impediment. Yeah, that that worked. So I'm literally watching Billy the Exterminator, and he's like, We gotta get these cockroaches out of here. You can get dysentery. And I'm like, what the fuck? Like, that's the Oregon Trail disease. And I'm like sitting there thinking, I had no idea the cockroaches could give that to you. And then he's like, There's 14 diseases, that's one I worry about. And I'm like, are we really worried about that in 2025? Like or 2026, whatever damn year it is. Yeah. I'm like, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Does dysentery really come from cockroaches? I had no idea.
SPEAKER_00He says on that show, Billy the Exterminator, and again, don't I'm not quoting it, this is Billy, but he says it has 14 diseases, and they will basically, like, with their feces and with like just I think them around, they can cause breathing issues for people in the house, like from breathing. And what's funny, well, it's not funny, but what's crazy is like Billy's young about all this, and then the owner of this trailer that he's trying to kill these cockroaches, is like, oh yeah, my three little sons here, they all have breathing issues. And Billy's like, Well, we gotta kill these cockroaches, and the way he kills them is like he sprays. A bait around because he's worried about killing the kids, but it turns out literally the cockroaches, the best way of doing it is using like a HEPA filter and chop backing them. And he starts chop backing them into this thing, and basically, I guess they get trapped in there, and then he disposes them using this HEPA filter, and him doing that doesn't spread it around when he's got the thing, the vacuum going hard. So I'm always learning something random from these goofy shows I watch.
SPEAKER_01That's pretty wild, but I mean that's like a good thing to know, I guess. I mean, uh, we had a mouse in the house at one point, and so I was like doing all kinds of research on like mice and like the things you can get from mice and how to clean up after mice and all this stuff. And apparently it's like uh you have like mice poop that you have to clean up, you're not supposed to sweep it because if you sweep it, it can like cause like toxins from the poop to get like released into the air, and then you can breathe it in and get like a uh I forget what the name of the disease is, but you can like get a disease from it, so you have to like be really careful when you're like sanitizing stuff that like a mouse has hooped on or peed on.
SPEAKER_00See, that's something that blows my mind is like I never I had seen a rat in New York and it's huge. And I've I've seen and I even being in a kid, like in our science lab in elementary, shout out to Fern Creek Elementary School. We had rats, and like they were, you know, they didn't bother me when I was young. You know, I was just like, oh, it's a rat, cool. And like I always love animals, so animals don't like even rodents, they don't freak me out. But the thing about the rat river rats, they freak me out. And I never thought I would spec see a river rat in Louisville until I'm selling beer, and it used to be do you remember down by the waterfront that building, and it's like it became another uh Mexican restaurant for Tumbleweed that building.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00So that place is so connected to the river, and they had a wall going up that like protected the building from the river in case of like a flood or whatever, but the problem is it's right on the river that building. So I go into the beer keg room where they're switching the kegs, and I remember this girl that like had worked on my route before was like, be careful in that that keg room, and I'm like, Why? She's like, it's just like there's rats, and I was like, What? So I didn't even think about it. Well, I'm moving kegs around, and I swear to you, I saw Danny DeVito in a rat costume in this beer cooler, and he had like a little mustache and everything. Like it was like a mixture of Mario with Danny DeVito, and it freaked me out. And I realized like when I told Tumbleweed, they were like, You wouldn't believe the things that we've seen in this building that we've had to get rid of. I'm like, well, you need to get somebody in the cooler.
SPEAKER_01And then like Joe's that Ohio River mutation.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And Joe's Crab Shack is a very clean establishment. I never had issues, even though I don't like their food. Like, I've never had issues down there, but they have that like underneath their restaurant that like it it has like storage, I think, for like when thunder happens and they gotta bring out beer tubs and food storage and all that. And you know, you would see stuff down there, but I just get um, yeah, down there the river, those things can be freaky.
SPEAKER_01Yikes, yeah. I mean, uh, I've only seen like like we just had like tiny little mice and they're like so small, uh, and we got rid of them, but uh I have seen a rat once and it was wild because I was like, holy cow, that thing is massive. At first I thought it was like a kitten or like a like a stray cat or something. I saw it uh like come out of somebody's trash can one time.
SPEAKER_00I was like, what the it'll freak you out because the thing about it is it's like once you see them, it gets like there was a house when I did uh project management. I remember I would send my team to the house and I would be like, hey, they change the locks, make a list of what you think it needs done, I'll come out, I'll approve if we need to do that all, and then we'll get started because my boss is like, I want to get that house flipped in two weeks. And I go to this house in Newburgh, and literally when I pull in the driveway, we open up the door, and I swear to you, there was rats eating rats in the kitchen. And they were everywhere. And the the neighbor was special needs, and his mom said that like he would go over to that house a lot, like when it was abandoned to like look in there and be like trying to like he just was nosy and his mom would always try to learn him back to the house. And he told me, he looked at me and he was like, Sir, these rats are crazy. And I'm like, you know, and he's special needs, so I'm being very sweet to him, and I'm also just like, okay, he's kind of just exaggerating, probably. Uh, it's probably a couple of them. No, it was like a hundred of them, and I was like, this is horrible. And like, it's sad when you call out pest control and they're just like, I don't want to mess with that. Like, I don't even want to touch that.
SPEAKER_01Um, we'll just set it on fire and demolish it. That's our best, our our best uh method of handling this.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. So, do you feel like you uh getting back into the art thing? We you know, on this show we talk derailed so much. I talk so many different topics. It's it's like I think it's what makes it fun each episode because it's like you're not just speaking on one specific thing. I kind of go all over the place. But um, with your art, do you feel like doing the events that you've been doing, which you know, you've done some events, has that really helped the exposure? Do you feel like? Like, do you do you like the exposure you've gotten?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, definitely. I think events are kind of like one of the number one ways that I get like exposure and and stuff just because like like doing social media and whatever definitely helps and is fine, but I always feel like when I meet people in person at events, uh, they really like I always try to like really like connect with people when I meet them. I always try to talk to everybody and chat with them and really like make an impression on them so they know that like, oh, it's a person that makes this art. It's like a human person who like has a life, and I think that really influences people to follow me as well as like liking my art and then going and doing events. I try to like branch out every year and do some different events and events in like different places, and I think that helps sort of um expand my my following for sure.
SPEAKER_00So do you what do you what has been your favorite event recently that you've done? Did you have you been enjoying doing the Public uh Monster Festival? Is that that's what it's called, right? Or goat man festival?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the Goatman Festival, the Goat Man Festival is great. Um, unfortunately, I won't be able to do it this year, and I'm I'm super bummed out about that because it's a great festival because it's local, it's free, it's outside, it's it's a lot of fun. Um, and they have like a lot of different events going, like a lot of different things going on at that event, which is really fun. It's not like just a market. Um, this year I actu I October is always a really hard month because that's the month everybody wants to put their event on. And so Guiltman was supposed to be um the 10th and the 11th. So I had blocked that out and I had booked some other stuff, and then the guy that runs it decided to move it to a different date, and the date he moved it to, I already had booked and paid for a different event. So unfortunately, I'm not gonna be there this year, and I'm very sad about it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because I felt like that was one that you really enjoyed, and you know, and you are definitely yeah. I feel like you are the cryptic queen. That's what I like to that's what I that's what I call you. I just like that you know you know all about cryptids, and I think it's so fascinating. I actually was so excited for you to be on because you're an amazing guest, but also I wanted to share with you. I found a guy on YouTube that I think was up your alley. I think it's something that you could watch when you're bored, watch when you're making art, just even in the background. It it's called the Mystery Man Channel. Have you heard of this?
SPEAKER_01Oh no, what have you heard of?
SPEAKER_00There's like in the bottom left corner. Oh, yeah, I love YouTube, and I'll tell you this, and I want to verify that I I want to tell you the correct channel because it is so you'll see, the mystery man uh channel. Yeah, yeah, that's it's called, oh not the mystery man, it's called Mystery Man, and he's got 154,000 subscribers, about 400 videos. If you look him up, it's at Mystery Man1111. So with four ones after it. And um the thing about this channel that is so fascinating, it's this little, it looks like almost like an old school, you know, them old school hockey masks that are like kind of flat.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_00That that white hockey mask with the eyes, that cartoon character, is in the bottom left corner of all of his videos, and is actually how he narrates the videos. So the whole time the video's talking to you, his little mouth is talking the whole video. And it's kind of at first it's kind of cool, then it kind of creeps you out, then it's kind of cute. It gives you all these different, then you're just like, hey, I kind of like this little dude being down there. But what the videos are is like I've been on this kick of finding the the top, like, it'll be like the top 30 most scary Appalachian Trail encounters. Like, I've been really digging into the Appalachian Trail of all these things people see. They see cryptures, they see uh all these crazy things. And what's wild, there's other goat man sightings, other places. There's also like I was watching one of these Mr. Man videos the other day, and there was literally like a group of four, and they're walking, and they kind of stop and they're like at a campsite, and they see over in the distance, probably like a good 70 yards from them, and it's just something walking upright, but then it immediately gets on all fours and it flips them out. And to be honest, most of these videos, they're not. I've watched it with a couple people, and they're like, Well, this this one don't seem real, and this one seems a little bit, and I'm like, no, the more you watch, it really like is actual footage people submit, and I kind of rather it be amateur footage, and he narrates like what this person went through, and it's just it's a really fun um way to watch scary stuff, but it also really kind of keeps you on edge because it's so interesting because like the more you've taught me about cryptids, the more I've explored, like, you know, and we discussed this on the last like West Virginia, and a lot of these places and on the Appalachian Trail have these mysteries, and there's certain things I've learned recently you wouldn't do when you start getting ventured out into the woods on the Appalachian Trail. Like, number one, they say don't ever, there's a lot of abandoned staircases, don't ever walk up the most because it can either take you to somewhere else, or when you get up there, it's like a bad omen. And then there's also things where people say you'll hear like in the woods, like somebody just screaming, hey, and it's like it's people trying to like holler at you, but then people are like, oh, it's just someone maybe messing with somebody, or it's somebody dressed up. But it seems like there's a lot of secret ways that people get around in those areas, and and just the trails alone, I feel like there's just something about it. It's it's almost like the Bermuda Triangle. It's almost like, you know, places where you can't really explain what's happening.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean there's it's so funny because especially like in like the US, there's so much like unexplored areas. Like we think everything has been pretty like mapped out and unexplored and like uh metropolized or whatever, but there's actually like so much we don't know about in several, like in the Appalachian Mountains, there's plenty of places we are unfamiliar with. There's plenty of states like out west that are a lot of nothing that we like just don't go into and don't explore. And it's like, who knows what's lurking over there?
SPEAKER_00A hundred percent. You know, that's why I think we all as humans, like, we don't I don't think we process the blessing that Anthony Bourdain was to all of us because that show he had, Parts Unknown, it's on HBO Max now, like you can watch reruns, and I and it is so amazing because I'll watch some of these episodes and you know it makes you sad at first because like I missed him because he was just such a cool dude. But it's like these places he goes on these parts unknown are places that you and I wouldn't just pick as a quick vacation spot. Like he's really exploring things, but like it's the my my least favorite state in the union is Mississippi. Um, I've been through it a couple times, I've never been a fan. However, watching his Mississippi episode recently really woke my eyes up to how much change is happening there, how much dark history is there, but also how there is places to explore and things to see. And but you also another thing you notice on those just kind of a side note with those parts unknown is like a lot of these places that Bourdain went to, if you look back on the episode and like Google the places in each one, a lot of places are closed because of COVID and didn't make it through, or the owner that maybe was featured in the episode died. Um you know, to kind of spin off of that, what what are places that you think you if if you had unlimited money, like if you had unlimited time and travel, what are like three places you think you want to go to that would inspire you for art? Like that you feel like you can make your best art there if you had the freedom, the time, and finances to do it.
SPEAKER_01Well, number one would be Iceland, because that's my like dream destination. I've always wanted to go to Iceland and just tour the an entire country. I know that like most like most of the population lives in uh Reykjavich, which is like their main uh main city, but you can get tours to like the more um kind of like obscure parts of the country, but the less populated parts, and it seems just like a absolutely beautiful country with like just the most wild scenery and just being able to explore that I think would be amazing. Yeah, uh so that is always my number one. Um, I also would love to go to uh Italy. Again, I mean, like so Florence, Italy is kind of one of the like the capital of the Renaissance. And so mostly like brilliant people that came out of the Renaissance were in Florence, Italy. And so since it's kind of like a like a Mecca hub of like the art scene in general, I feel like that would be super inspiring and just like really surreal to be there and be where several of the great artists once roamed around and and painted and learned, and that would be very cool. Um, and then my third place would probably be Japan. I want to travel everywhere.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01Maybe uh it would be it'd be between New Zealand and Japan. Probably. Japan, I think, would maybe be too overwhelming for me because I am more introverted and I'm not very it's it like seems very busy and chaotic, which is just not my vibe. Uh but New Zealand would be very cool because again, similar to Iceland, I feel like you know, it's a small enough country to where you could probably explore all of it in like a trip. And also it's just like so unbelievably just breathtakingly beautiful. Like, how can a like a place that's just so gorgeous not be inspiring?
SPEAKER_00Oh, a hundred percent. I think the thing with Japan would be big with colors. I feel like you could use so many colors you see in like the lights, but I feel like the same way. I'm extroverted to the point, like I'm I'm very, I'm very outgoing, very, very talkative, like, but at the end of the day, I do feel like I would be just overwhelmed as well there because there's just so many people. Like, and I'm at this, like back in the day, I always wanted to, oh, I love being around all the people and everything. And like my when I worked at the newspaper, I'm like, I'll do that event, I'll do that event, I I'll go to all this stuff. And then it gets to the point now at my like 36, I'm like, I don't want to go do all these events. I don't want to be around all those people, I don't want to go to that festival. Like, I remember I went to Bonaro in 2019 and it was incredible. But then my buddy wanted me to go the year it got canceled there when they had that big storm and stuff, and I had tickets for that. I'm glad I sold them because of the way it played out. But also, yeah, I'll be honest, and I was real with him. I just had anxiety going in, like, didn't think I could do it again. Like, I knew I could do it, but it's a case where did I want to do it? You know, the camping out, and it it's it's a lot. And it in the recovery, I have no regrets. And and like I said, Bonaroo 2019 was one of the best times of my life, but it just the the recovery is just so crazy. But but those festivals definitely inspire you to be creative and and do things. And um, the other thing I was gonna ask you with art like here recently, um what it when you look back on like the things you create and stuff, um do you feel like we were talking into YouTube and stuff? Do you I feel this way? I don't know if you feel, but it's like when I make something or see something, I kind of want to, I just want to share it. It's not about like the social media asset, but it's like the I want to share it on YouTube or I want to make it into something bigger than what it is, you know, like a a slideshow, a projection. So do you feel like with your art, do you feel like like utilizing YouTube and other places you can post like collages and compilations of all your art? Like, is that something you have a goal of doing when you can kind of share all your pieces?
SPEAKER_01Um yeah, it is like really nice that in like the day and age of social media you can just like share whatever you want. Um, and that's pretty cool. And I feel like with my social media stuff, it's I I try to keep it pretty pertained art. I mean, on my Instagram I like will post uh like in my stories and stuff. I share like semi-personal stuff, but it's really fun to like have a place to be able to share things that I create because I'm always like, even if it's something that's like not like great, I don't know, it's always fun to like show it to other people and like get feedback and stuff like that. Um and I think that's like a really cool thing about social media. There is like the flip side where for a while there I felt like the pressure of having to post. Like, oh well, I'm an artist, I have to post. If I want to be relevant, I have to post. If I want people to see my stuff, I have to post. But I kind of I don't know how or like what crossed my mind, but I I finally was able to like get out of that mindset and I kind of post when I have something to post and I like want to post. Like when I create stuff that I like, I don't know, I really care about like making stuff and I really enjoy sharing it with people and I really like that other people seem to really enjoy it and and get something out of it, and that really makes me happy. Um and I enjoy that getting that connection and just sharing. it with people. I don't know. I thought that answered your question.
SPEAKER_00No, that's a perfect answer. And I I think uh we had talked about this in past episodes about YouTube and broadcast. So it it's it's really cool to hear why you do it, your motivation and what you know and how you do make people feel with it. And and do you feel like do you feel like uh I've I've always wanted to ask you this is there any commissioned our piece or anything somebody's requested that you feel like has challenged you but once it did once you did it it just made you feel like you just accomplished some feat that you maybe didn't believe you could do?
SPEAKER_01Man that's a good question. Uh yeah I've had a few commissions like that um which I've only been I guess like really doing art seriously for like I guess maybe five ish years or so and so every every day you get better. Every day that you like practice and work on stuff you're you're always getting better and I would love to get like you know I think look back on commissions I had previously and I'm like man if I got that commission now it would be like way more badass but I've gotten several like really cool commissions um I've gotten to do a uh someone commissioned me to do a Skyrim scene and she wanted it like in this panoramic canvas so it was like uh I don't remember it was like 10 feet by three feet or something so it was a really long canvas and and really like short width or whatever and that was very fun because it was such a weird sort of size to do a do a painting on um that that was really challenging but also really satisfying because I love Skyrim so much. So that was very fun to do and I was very excited about making that piece for someone. And then there's this guy that comes to CryptidCon he always catches me at CryptidCon and commissions me to paint saw blades uh which is a thing it's it's like a thing I didn't know was a thing. Um apparently I guess uh country folk like to get saw blades painted and it's a thing that people do. So he commissioned me to paint some saw blades and then he commissioned me to paint this huge round like uh I don't know what kind of saw it was for but like this massive uh like three or four foot by three or four foot saw blade. Oh that's cool. And yeah that was really fun because it's a different material so I got to kind of experiment around with doing something different that I wouldn't normally do. And that's like kind of the cool thing about commissions. You know it you are kind of not like being forced that's that sounds bad but like you're you're having to think about something a little differently because you're painting something or making something that you wouldn't necessarily think about making or like want to make but it's something somebody else cares enough about to give you money to make. So you kind of have to look at it a little differently and it makes you sort of like work harder on it and try to think about how to best approach it. And then Riley from uh What makes you smile he commissioned me to make this uh pretty wild like painting he wanted all of these so I I did this painting of Cryptids playing poker and he really liked that so he wanted a spin-off of that except he wanted like all of his favorite characters and his grandpa and like his dogs and all these like very specific things in this scene. And it was hard because it's like all of these things that you know objectively like don't really go together but they're all things that represent stuff for him so I have to figure out a way to make them in a scene together, make it work. And uh I thought it turned out really good. I was actually like I was like really proud of it. I was like this is like the weirdest piece that I've done because it's like I don't want to say it's like random because it's random to me but obviously it's not random to him because it's like all his favorite things. Um so that was like kind of cool to put that piece together and it kind of it was fun because I got to sort of it's it's like working out a puzzle you know and so you kind of have to figure out how to put the pieces together and and that was very cool.
SPEAKER_00That's really cool. And he's such a creative guy you know him being in that art world and you know but he he just always seems like he's got great concepts great ideas and he just he really knows talent and you know and he's he's who you know shout out to Riley all day because he's who brought us together and he's brought me together with other artists and you know what he does for the city and the community is so huge and he knows that um you know everywhere I try to go around you know I always am trying to push somebody there and if I ever meet people that do create things I try to send them that way or um push them in that direction because it's just I feel like what he does and what he provides is so important. It's also very important for local artists to have places like that to be able to share your stuff.
SPEAKER_01Have you ever created anything that you're like this is so good I want to keep it myself like like have you ever done that um yeah I've done that a couple times but normally when that happens it's something that I've like it's usually not a commission um normally with commissions since it's somebody else's idea I normally don't have an attachment to it but if I'm just making things um like I'm a really big fan of the show Twin Peaks and so in Twin Peaks there's a character called the log lady. So I needle felted a little log lady with the intention yeah with the intention of like selling it but I loved it so much I was like this is so good and I'm so proud of this I'm gonna keep her yeah yeah you got it something does happen. Yeah that's awesome because I you know especially when you're making something that's something you just love you know like something you really enjoy what is something that I'll do is I'll I'll make stuff and if if it's something that I really like and I want to keep I usually will like hang on to it for a little bit and then by the time the like newness of it wears off or whatever then I can like bring myself to sell it usually now do you feel like at this point with you developing the skills that you've had with certain art sources like oil painting felt um do you feel like you can now with sewing is there a way you could use all three into one you think on something is that something you can see happening like is that something that even possible using all three of those that'd be very interesting um very possibly um I mean I think I mean when you're talking about art I mean you can pretty much do anything. Very true um you know it's all about like the concept and the process for the most part. Because you could always like create an art piece using like fabric and sewing and needle felting and oil paint and then with the fabric and the uh needle felting uh needle felting is a fiber art so you could always needle felt onto clothing and things like that and so you could always sew cloth like make clothing and then needle felt on top of it. That's something that that you could do. And then you could always paint on clothing although I don't know if you would want to use oil paint on clothing because it would maybe not uh hold up very well.
SPEAKER_00And I feel like too it would uh that would be interesting that it might almost it might also make the clothes feel a little heavier you know a little bit but but that'd be that's true mostly probably have to be a uh like a standalone work of art instead of a functional piece of art now do you think you uh would do this down the road how cool would it be for you to like you were talking about clothes to sew a whole outfit like from even make your own stuff like a hat like a whole outfit like your shirt the pants the socks and then you know you just wear some shoes it's like I feel like you can make a whole outfit with sewing that that would be a fun adventure to try oh yeah for sure yeah I would I mean yeah ideally that would be great to just be like oh I'd love to have this outfit and then just like make it that that would be that's the dream really yeah yeah I would prefer to if I could just although like the thing is nowadays it's it's so funny I saw this meme or whatever on Instagram I think and it's like oh I could spend uh$25 on this thing or I can spend$150 and make it myself.
SPEAKER_01Exactly it does kind of feel like that especially with sewing uh but it's more so I don't know it it's like there's something really satisfying about being able to do it yourself and then also it's like I mean if it's something you get really good at it's something you could do for other people and other people could pay you and if I got really good at like making clothes um I could learn how to like tailor and I could learn how to make clothes for like special uh like special unique outfits for for people that would be you know pretty pricey because they'd be a one of a kind outfit you know no that'd be really cool and I think too you could even dive into the plush world people love plushes plushies and you know and I feel like that would even not be super expensive because you could find a lot of those materials like I love going into like a Michaels and just yeah exploring like even if I don't plan on making anything it's so cool to walk through the aisles of Michaels and be like oh man you know they got this they got that and anymore they even got these kits now where you're able to you know make art using the materials that they put all together so oh yeah um would you say uh what is some other goals that you have this year um like what are some events you think coming up that you want to try this year even though I know you can't make it to go man is there anything else you're trying to be a part of there are always events that I like want to do um I have an event coming up in May that I'm excited about that is pretty kind of like really different for me but kind of different I'm doing a um so this video game Fallout um is really popular and they are having a an it like an event that's fallout themed um specifically and they they did it in New Mexico and they're doing one this year in West Virginia. So I'm I'm attending the West Virginia one and it's called Wasteland Jamboree and it's gonna be in Sutton West Virginia and it's basically fallout themed so people are going to be like calls playing and LARPing and there's gonna be like speakers and events and all kinds of stuff so it's a little different than the kind of events I normally do. It's a little more of like an event event. Like a kind of like a rent fair I guess but but fallout themed.
SPEAKER_00That'd be cool and Fallout is a very interesting game too it's very it's very fun and you know it it can get addicting and you know it's it's a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_01Like I remember you know you're trying to basically I from what I remember it's like you're basically trying to survive right it's like you know your fallout shelter yeah so it's like uh the events after a well after nuclear fallout has a has occurred um and there's several different ones so fallout 76 is set in West Virginia and in that one there are lots of cryptids around in that game that you can um like fight and get items from and stuff um so it's kind of a nice sort of like uh way for me to get into the Fallout event because it kind of has cryptids tied into it.
SPEAKER_00Um I've only played Fallout New Vegas which is the one that's set in uh Nevada so I sort of am more familiar with that vibe but um I think it'll be fun to be able to blend like popular video game with like obscure cryptid folklore so yeah because it'd be it'd be interesting thinking about a fallout a nuclear thing happening in West Virginia and it's like you're in a fallout shelter and it's you and Goatman you know in a can of a can of pork and beans and you're just like Goatman we got to share this and you know he can't talk but he survived so you're trying to keep him alive and he's just there but it's like I don't know it's just things I could picture you know a fallout in West Virginia but West Virginia still still to this day to me like I said in our last episode such a mysterious place but such a place of like cryptid lore you know like you can just you can read about so much and see and that's another reason I brought that mystery man YouTube channel you'll like the transitions in the in the YouTube because it's like goat man or like a wolf and it's like like so he even throws it in into the the transitions between each video. So I really just I'm I'm all about mysteries and finding it and the more you and I always have talked in these episodes about cryptans it's like every time I see one I think of you Amelia and I'm just like oh man she be proud I just saw another one or like I'm learning about one today. So um and I was trying to teach um I got a new job now but before when I was at the zoo it was interesting teaching people that worked there and like around about cryptids and how people didn't know because you're sometimes when you're like up front selling tickets you're just trying to find something to say and like talk about because you know it gets boring and and I'm just like y'all know about cryptids you know and they're just like what and then what's what's unique is there's this girl that had worked there and I also knew her outside of work and it's like talking to her she knew something about that and was very was very intrigued on like how I knew about it. And I told her like I was like I'm not the expert. I was like Whitney taught me like like like Whitney has taught me taught me all that but um but no I just think it's it's such an interesting thing.
SPEAKER_01I think it's something that what we touched on our last episode is just so cool how cryptids are all around you know like like it's not just the Kentucky or West Virginia it's like everyone seems to have a cryptid in their in their thing and and it it it's something that I think what I if if I do some more digging on them I want to learn more from the international aspect of what people see because because I feel like internationally people sometimes think differently than an American who's like we're the only ones got cryptids I feel like Americans are so selfish and I feel like international not just with Mexico with the chupacabra but it's like other places like I'd love to hear what South uh you know South America what Africa what um Asia has because those countries have such different terrain so you like all these different terrains could create more cryptid opportunities you know for these these creatures to come out yeah there are definitely ones that are international because I mean cryptids are really like when you get down to like the bare bones of it they are just folklore stories. So just you know just like anything it's just a oral history that's passed down throughout the generations. So just tales of people telling people of crazy things they've seen and then as the story gets passed around it's kind of a game of telephone where it changes and transforms and all of a sudden it was a creature and it looked like that and it looked like this and all kinds of stuff. But I know that I had looked before at some like Italian ones and some Australian ones and I know like the only one I can think of is Australia has this one called the bun yip um that isn't like popular I wouldn't say but that's like I guess like one of the most well known like international ones and it's just like a swamp creature that is around in the swamps and he has like uh he kind of looks like a like a mix between like a fish and like a lion like a like a cat or a lion sort of that's cool. Not like with a mane but uh something like that and it it'll like come out and like snatch your kids.
SPEAKER_00So it's like it's like Lionel and Magikarp had a baby. Yeah yeah that's how I that's how I'm picturing it right now I'm literally picturing I'm picturing Lionel holding his little Magikarp baby like at the hospital. So if you okay let's let's uh play a little little fun game real quick if you saw a cryptid okay say you say this weekend coming up you just magically go somewhere with a friend your significant other whoever and your your family whoever and you're just walking through the woods and you see the cryptid or even the whole group or whoever you're with sees the cryptid as well do you feel like as an artist and I'm just getting your theory on it do you feel like the rest of your art creating days you besides taking commissions you would devote all your art to that cryptid that you actually saw that you realize is real? Or do you feel like you would stay away from creating that you would feel like I know that's real I I'm gonna work on more fictional characters. Like do you feel like there would become an obsession just out of curiosity?
SPEAKER_01Yes I definitely think so I would definitely obsess about it because I have an obsessive personality and so I would definitely just like consume all the content I could find about it to see what other people have seen what other people's accounts were what other people like see if other people had like photos or videos I would definitely recreate it and then I'd want to tell people about it at my events I'd be like I saw that you know I was walking in the woods and I want to tell them the whole story and I'd want to see what they had to say and see if anybody else had seen it for sure a hundred percent that's what would happen.
SPEAKER_00Now do you feel like though once you start making it and preaching that you've seen it do you feel like in your spare time when you had downtime you would be online trying to debate the haters like you would go to places where it's like oh that crypt ain't real and would you I just slide a comment in like hey it's real you know like what would you do?
SPEAKER_01That's a good question. Uh probably not I'm uh I tend to be a non-confrontational person. Yeah so I pretty much am kind of like hey I know what I saw and if you don't believe me then that's on you.
SPEAKER_00You don't have to believe me but I know what I saw and I know it's real so oh 100% yeah I and here's the deal if you told me I'd believe you I would believe you all day if it if you told me and and like I said I I would definitely believe you because I know your cryptid passion and you wouldn't lie about something like that. Like that's they they they mean too much and I would be the same way. I I was very when I saw my first couple ghosts you know and I I swear to this day I've had about seven ghost encounters, but the the first two I told so many people almost like I was having a baby or I was getting married or something. I called everybody and it and you know and most people were like, oh, that's cool, and like tell me about it. Oh, that, but then there was haters that were like, come on, get real, Eric. Like, and it got to a point where it's almost like posting a political opinion on Facebook. You're not gonna change everybody's mind. You have to realize that everyone thinks the way they think. And so I just feel like if I saw a cryptid, I think I would number one tell everybody, but I just would have to really accept that, man, there's somebody out there that is like, he is so full of shit. And I even got a selfie with him, and so and then you know, once you post this, even if you took a subway, you know, there'd be that hater. That's AI. Like, you know, like, no, it's it's for real. It's it's the goat man. Like, but I've always, you know, and but I've also wondered as a kid because I talked about this. My last two episodes I did were solo ones about the most haunted places in like Kentucky and Louisville. And I talked about the public bridge a lot. I talked about you know the goat man and what it meant growing up in J Town, how much that's preached to you as a child, that story. And it and I'll say that that was one story, like goat, whatever you want to call it, ghost story, cryptid story, that doesn't ever seem to change too much, but people have they add these opinions in it, it makes you wonder, it's like, you know, did all these stories really happen? But you want to think about it. And I remember going there and sitting under the bridge with friends when I was younger, and it's just like we were all so spooked, and you know, Goldman never came, but we were all just like, oh, what's that? What's that, you know, and it's just because you overthink it. But I just love the theory that he fell off a circus train. I I just think that's such a cool theory.
SPEAKER_01You know, quite honestly, like, I don't know, I don't necessarily like believe in a lot of like the cryptid stuff, but honestly, it's just like more fun to believe that there are possibilities of things we don't know and don't understand out there because I mean there's so much in the world that we don't know about and that we don't understand. Why isn't a goatman a possibility? You know, it's kind of just makes life more fun and more interesting to believe things. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00And when somebody and somebody having that idea had to come about somewhere, so it's not like it's not like goatman was just randomly one day, let's all talk about goat man. Someone saw goat man to bring up the idea of goatman. I know there's creativity, I know that we all try to think of monsters and animals and human, you know. You know, I'm a pro wrestling fan. Me and my friends all talk, you know, even though you know it's a human being that's got a normal family and a, you know, he's just trying to make some money. That guy behind the mask and the the crazy outfit, you know, we're into him because he's like the monster. He's something that's not what you usually see. So it's it's really cool to, you know, to always get the original origin of the story because you're like, wow, I see how this has become a legacy of like it's been spun off so much. Um the question that I have to ask you is um do you feel like with the with cryptids, do you feel like it's a case where you want to make more cryptid art uh down the road from the standpoint to kind of like, I don't know, like for these special events to theme, or do you feel like you want to keep exploring new cryptids that you haven't got to really create yet and and make those? Like, is it more about cryptids that you're kind of close and familiar with, or do you want to keep trying to make ones you've never made?
SPEAKER_01Um, that is a good question. Um, I'm always interested in like learning about new ones and incorporating like new ones or ones I haven't heard of um into my art, but I do kind of and I often tend to just stick with my favorites. Like I venture out of them every now and again and try to incorporate new ones. But yeah, I don't know. I have like my favorites that I kinda like to stick to and I kind of like to make them my my main focus, I guess. I don't I don't know why it has happened that way, but it but it has. But um whenever I do learn about new ones, I always do like to try to make some new art about them. The only problem with that is that as far as like selling art, a lot of people don't know like the more obscure ones. Um so unless you're like at an event that's specific to it, a lot of times people won't know. Um, but then that's kind of fun because then you get to explain the story and share a new cryptid with someone and they've learned something new, which is kind of cool.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, for sure. And then uh my last question for the episode before we do our sign-off. So I I like your hair. I noticed that you got your hair a cool color. It's like a blue, purple kind of so what motivates you for your hair color? Do you do you ever um start making art and think, hey, this is a cool color I could use on hair? Or like what's your motivation for your hairstyles?
SPEAKER_01Um, so I always wanted to dye my hair uh growing up, but I was always like I always dyed it like natural colors, and I was always so scared to dye it a like fantasy crazy color because I have naturally like medium brown hair, and so I would all I would have to bleach it first, and I already have like pretty thin hair, so I was really worried about like damaging my hair. So I finally like made the jump and decided to get it to dye it uh I don't know, a few years ago, and so I first did like a fuchsia color, and it was like fuchsia with like some blue in it. And I got it professionally done, and um it wasn't exactly like what I had asked for because I wanted like purple hair ideally, but through like talking to my hair person, we kind of worked out what she thought was best, and you know, I trusted her opinion, and the way it turned out was really great, and I was really glad that I went with what she had said, and it it really like inspired me to want to keep my crazy hair and so but then uh it's very expensive to get it done at a salon, so I started doing it myself, and it's kind of like a matter of when I get bored of the color if I want to change it, and I had it like a fuchsia purple color for a while, but then in the like scripted art community, there was several girls that had like purplish hair and I really wanted to like I didn't wanna like I didn't want to look like I was like chopping them and I didn't wanna people to confuse us, so I was like, I need like something different to stand out, and I've always liked the color blue, and so I just was like, oh let's go with like blue and purple, that'll work. And I've just really liked it being blue, so I've kept it blue for a little while. Um, it is kind of like a pain to keep up with, but I s I still like really like it and enjoy it, and I'll probably just keep it until I get tired of it. I'm sure one day I will just be like kind of over the blue, and then whatever color I'm feeling that day is is what it'll change to, I imagine.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's cool. I really like it, and I think it's I think it's cool hair too for an artist, and I think it just shows that you also share that, you know, creativity in your own life as well. So, you know, like your lifestyle and and your your dress. So that's really cool.
SPEAKER_01It's funny because I like I forget about it being blue like all the time because you know I don't really like look at myself. So sometimes like when I'm at shows and stuff, people will like comment on it, and I'm like, oh yeah, oh thanks. Yeah, thought I had blue hair.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, that's fun. That's a lot of fun. And I've I'm actually the same way. I want to dye my hair a crazy color. I don't know what. Now that I'm kind of in this new office setting, I think it's something where I have to wait a little while, get to know the team a little bit more, and like, yeah, you know, but I've also always had the dream, and I think it's just because I was an Eminem fan, but it's like I've always wanted to do the Marshall Matters bleach blonde one day, something crazy like that. And you know, and even blue for I I remember actually talking about Bonaru again. I remember in 2019, that's the last time I'd ever dyed it. I dyed my hair pink and had purple in it for like the last couple days, and but I was like having the time of my life and I didn't give a shit what I looked like. I was like, I'm having fun, I'll I'll spray it another color. So, but that was a lot of fun because people were like, Man, you really did dye it. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I'm trying to get it out. So it was a lot of fun. But um, but no, I want to thank you again for coming on. You're always an amazing guest. It's always fun getting an update from you. Um, I'll be doing season eight down the road, so you know you'll be back. And uh I just want to again thank you for always the opportunity and you always make it very interesting, and you always give great answers. So I'm very excited to see where your art takes you this year. Um, but if you want to give the listeners uh a little sign-off and how they can reach out about art and see some of your stuff, uh give a little sign off there.
SPEAKER_01Sure, yeah. I really appreciate you having me on. It's always a really fun time, and I love doing the podcast. So thank you so much for reaching out to me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, and if anybody's interested in checking out my stuff, you can find me on Instagram. It's at Whitney YayadenArt. Um and it's Whitney, and then Yaden is Y-A-D-O-N. No one knows how to spell it, so and it's just Whitney YayadenArt. And I also have a YouTube channel where you can watch me uh create things, and uh I do like tutorials and stuff on there, and then I have I started doing a TikTok um which I try to update regularly, but I'm not as into TikTok. Instagram's my main platform. Um, and then I also have an Etsy store if you're interested in checking out what I have for sale on all my socials. I always try to update what when I'm gonna have events and what new things I'm creating, and it's all at Whitney Yayaden Arts.
SPEAKER_00Awesome, awesome. Well, again, thank you for coming on. Everybody support Whitney's art. And uh, you know, Whitney's one of the nicest people ever, so just reach out and you know, show her the love. And again, I want to thank everybody for listening. Got about 10 more episodes for this season. Uh, gonna be pumping them out. Gonna try to wrap up uh by the middle of May. So uh, you know, I hope everybody's having a great derby season for the locals. And uh everybody, again, thank you for listening. We are out. Peace.
